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MISSISSAUGAWATCH to “ROOTS OF YOUTH VIOLENCE” co-author DR. ALVIN CURLING… “Municipalities are a MAJOR Root of Youth Violence”

March 12th, 2009  

Hey Missy Dudes and Dudettes,

Dr. Alvin Curling, co-author of "Roots of Youth Violence" March 10 ,2009

MISSISSAUGAWATCH VIDEO INTERVIEW with Dr. Alvin Curling, co-author of The Roots of Youth Violence.

TRANSCRIPT BEGINS…

MISSISSAUGAWATCH: I have some questions regarding “The Roots of Youth Violence”

DR. ALVIN CURLING: Yes.

MISSISSAUGAWATCH: —and  one of the questions I have is: When your team worked on “The Roots of Youth Violence” from the initial drafting to the final product, did you do any research using Freedom of Information —and specifically, filing Freedom of Information into Schools, Municipalities and even Police?

DR. ALVIN CURLING: Well most of the research that we have done, which we contracted Scott Beaudry (sp?), a renowned criminologist, to do that. We gathered all the documents that were public already.

MISSISSAUGAWATCH: Yeah.

DR. ALVIN CURLING: About Freedom of Information, I don’t think [inaudible} most of it unnecessary —they were all public documents out there. We just pulled all that together and then presented it.

MISSISSAUGAWATCH: OK, the next question. Are you aware that the 2001 Municipal Act doesn’t require Ontario municipalities to have a public complaints process in place?

DR. ALVIN CURLING: Don’t have to have a what?

MISSISSAUGAWATCH: They don’t —The 2001 Municipal Act doesn’t require municipalities to have a public complaints system in place.

DR. ALVIN CURLING: Well, a—

MISSISSAUGAWATCH: —which means that there’s no framework for accountability within municipalities.

DR. ALVIN CURLING: The municipalities do have accountabality, of course. But I presume that in their own way they do. But I’m not quite familiar with what it hasn’t got and what it has—

MISSISSAUGAWATCH: Well, for example, The City of Mississauga, in the 30 years, never had a public complaints system, let alone a formal one.

Video shifts to the MAY 21, 2008 MISSISSAUGA COUNCIL MEETING..

MISSISSAUGA COUNCILLOR PAT MULLIN: But I guess that I’m looking for some direction from possibly Staff if there is something that we could put in place which would be, I guess, a complaint procedure against Staff. And maybe somebody could respond. Or if there’s another way in terms of looking at it.

MISSISSAUGA MAYOR HAZEL MCCALLION: Councillor Mullin, I met with the City Manager this morning. I’ve not seen the report. And I was going to ask  —and I was a little slow in asking, that this report be referred back. To look at the process.

Video returns to March 10, 2009 interview with DR. ALVIN CURLING.

MISSISSAUGAWATCH: And I’ve been filing Freedom of Information for two years on Peel, Brampton, and so on and I can’t find a framework for accountability. And just one more thing? I just want to show you..

This is a 1994 document by Peel Regional Police and it made a recommendation regarding Crime Prevention that said, “Delegates recommend that crime prevention initiatives be unique and tailored to local communities.”

DR. ALVIN CURLING: Yes.

MISSISSAUGAWATCH: That’s 1994. Then it says, “It is recognized that the two existing Crime Prevention Associations are the best vehicle for program development and implementation.” And we can agree with that too.

Then it says, “A process of accountability and evaluation should be built into programs to ensure achievement of goals and cost-effectiveness.” I haven’t found any.

DR. ALVIN CURLING: Is that right?

MISSISSAUGAWATCH: No. So, this is really the question that I have. Do you support, or what are your feelings towards allowing The Ontario Ombudsman full investigative powers into the MUSH sector —Municipalities, Universities, Schools and Hospitals?

DR. ALVIN CURLING: Well, actually, I can’t comment on that really because the fact that you say to give The Ombudsman full investigative authority to investigate a municipality…

MISSISSAUGAWATCH: Right now he doesn’t have that. You know that, right?

DR. ALVIN CURLING: No because he —actually The Ombudsman is The Province, not The Municipality. [inaudible] to the Parliament itself not to the mayor. So that—

MISSISSAUGAWATCH: Oh I know, but I mean… That’s why I’m saying. A municpality that doesn’t want to held accountable?.. you can’t make it accountable. And that’s what I believe to be a major Root of Youth Violence.

DR. ALVIN CURLING: Well… well that’s a view. That’s your view.

MISSISSAUGAWATCH: Well, actually, I’ve got Freedom of Information that shows that municpalities here —they don’t know what each other are doing. They don’t even know share the information with police.

DR. ALVIN CURLING: Well, we talked about sharing that. And lots of that. We talked about each municipality, each community, could share some of their experiences because one municipality is different than the other. You can’t use the solution of one community to solve the other’s problem. So they have their own unique way.

MISSISSAUGAWATCH: Well basically, what I see happening is that they are trumpeting their successes, sometimes inventing their successes and the authentic accountability —and I suspect that’s why you don’t see Youth here?… Because they don’t think this is real.

DR. ALVIN CURLING: Is that right? Well they have to come out even if they don’t think it’s real and come and say it, you know…

MISSISSAUGAWATCH: Yeah.

DR. ALVIN CURLING: Thanks very much.

MISSISSAUGAWATCH: OK. Thank you, sir.

VIDEO INTERVIEW ENDS and here’s the video…

“ROOTS OF YOUTH VIOLENCE” co-author, DR. ALVIN CURLING interviewed by MISSISSAUGAWATCH (4:40 min)

(Click here to go directly to the clip on YouTube)

Last, Dr. Alvin Curling will be speaking this evening at the Jamaican Canadian Association from 6:30 to 9:30 pm. 995 Arrow Road (Arrow & Finch)

Signed,

The Mississauga Muse

ONTARIO MUNICIPALITIES: MAJOR ROOTS OF YOUTH VIOLENCE

Comments

9 Responses to “MISSISSAUGAWATCH to “ROOTS OF YOUTH VIOLENCE” co-author DR. ALVIN CURLING… “Municipalities are a MAJOR Root of Youth Violence””

  1. Anonymous on March 14th, 2009 4:34 pm

    I recently read an article in the Mississauga News which spoke of Mississauga Firefighters showing their respects during the procession of one of the latest fallen soldiers. I was very taken aback by some of the comments that followed, especially those who called it ‘A waste of taxpayers dollars’ for firefighters to be doing such things.

    With you being such a fond supporter of Mississauga’s Finest, I would love to see a blog or editorial produced by yourself which may provide some insight into what it is that Firefighters do, and what peoples’s tax dollars are actually going towards in terms of Emergency services.

    I agree with the comment made in that article by a firefighter, where he mentions that we don’t have to necessarily support the war, but we should support our troops.

    In a situation such as the procession of the fallen soldier, I simply could not believe that people even brought tax dollars into the conversation. What is your take on the whole mix?

  2. The Mississauga Muse on March 16th, 2009 11:10 am

    Hi Anonymous,

    Apologies for the delay in posting your comment and  answering.

    You wrote:

    I recently read an article in the Mississauga News which spoke of Mississauga Firefighters showing their respects during the procession of one of the latest fallen soldiers. I was very taken aback by some of the comments that followed, especially those who called it ‘A waste of taxpayers dollars’ for firefighters to be doing such things.

    You then said:

    “With you being such a fond supporter of Mississauga’s Finest, I would love to see a blog or editorial produced by yourself which may provide some insight into what it is that Firefighters do, and what peoples’s tax dollars are actually going towards in terms of Emergency services.”

    Because one of the commenters complained that the Mississauga News only mentioned firefighters standing paying their respects by writing “Only firefighters worth the ink” I want to point out what I’m also a “fond supporter” of all our Emergency Services –our Peel Paramedics, our Peelers (Police) as well as (probably) whatever “ACP” means that armymedic71 was referring to.

    I just surfed to the Mississauga News article, “Firefighters salute a fallen hero” and read the comments. What can I say? People are idiots. But Canada is a free country and being an idiot is not a criminal offense. I’d go so far as to suggest that being an idiot is protected under the Canadian Charter of Rights.  So is Freedom of Speech no matter how ill-informed.

    A reminder that Marc Diab was serving Canada when he was killed. I’d like to think that he’d support the right of those individuals to serve up those “This is how our tax dollars is spent. Maybe we need to look at cutting back on some of our emergency services” comments. (I certainly do. This is CANADA.)

    Having said that, man what IDIOTS! (CRIPES!)

    You wrote:

    “In a situation such as the procession of the fallen soldier, I simply could not believe that people even brought tax dollars into the conversation. What is your take on the whole mix?”

    Mostly my take on “the whole mix” is that theirs is a failure of the Imagination, and it’s appalling just how many people can’t seem to summon it —Imagination, I mean.

    Emergency Services RESCUES citizens.

    Emergency Services isn’t just firefighters, police, paramedics but also our doctors and nurses. Thing is it’s only police and firefighters who are Out There. Don’t get me wrong, Paramedics face hazardous situations too, dealing with collisions and potential injury. (Try assisting someone on the 401.)

    But far as I know, it’s only police and firefighters who can be called at any time to put their lives directly on the line. And they know that when they first sign up as recruits.

    And because soldiers also knowingly sign up and put their lives on the line, I see them like police and firefighters. Regular citizens are not like police, firefighters and soldiers. Regular citizens don’t go to work in the mornings pondering whether they’ll see their families again.

    Frankly I don’t know how any of them do it, firefighter, police, soldier —I’m too chicken.

    I say that police and soldiers have it even worse than firefighters. As raging as a fire might be, there’s nothing emotional about flames —you can’t blame a fire for being a fire. By contrast, police and soldiers face people motivated  to kill them!

    The Enemy doesn’t matter though because ultimately, you sign up for those three jobs and you’re saying, “If Canadians need it, I’m ready to give my life.”

    That’s what I mean by failure of the Imagination in those moron-commenters. What (tax-dollar) price do you put on a person ready to charge into a fiery building? Or our Peel Police Tactical Unit —especially the first guy who has to kick down the door? ?  Or one of our soldiers?

    There’s something called a “blue line” and usually people think of police brethren and their blue line. But the “line” is Emergency Services as well.  There’s this bond because they all defend and serve and protect. It also means that no matter what, police, firefighters, paramedics (Emergency Services) mourn differently than regular citizens do. There’s a collective mourning and it can be massive.

    Regular people who die are usually mourned just by their immediate friends and families.

    A police offcer goes down or a firefighter and it’s all police and firefighters in North America who’ve lost a colleague.  Even the world.  And their families are reminded what risk they’re in. Because it isn’t just the firefighter, police officer or soldier prepared to sacrifice. I’m reluctant to point this out so bluntly but Marc Diab’s sacrifice is over with…

    And while regular people can wave flags and mourn a fallen soldier atop a bridge, it’s our police, firefighters, paramedics (aka Emergency Services) who best represent us-citizens at times like that.

    First, their presence delivers comfort to the family of the fallen.

    Second, it helps the police, firefighters on that bridge mourn as only they know how.

    Next, it reminds citizens what their tax dollars are going into. COURAGE. PROFESSIONALISM. COURAGE. COMMITMENT. DUTY. COURAGE. CANADA. COURAGE.

    And above all COURAGE.

    The only people fitting to see that soldier off is another who took the oath to give up his life if called. There is no one else.

    What? Our local politicians?

    Forgive the political statement here, but our local politicians and bureaucraps have no business at these ceremonies. From my own research and observations, there are no sorrier bunch of UNCanadians and moral COWARDS.

    I’m done.  Thanks for asking.

    Signed,

    The Mississauga Muse

    P.S. I’ll do a precis of the above for that article when time permits this evening.

  3. The Mississauga Muse on March 17th, 2009 7:49 am

    UPDATED MARCH 17, 2009.This important announcement was left as a comment in “About the Mississauga Muse” and I’ve cut-and-pasted it here [RED BOLDED EMPHASIS MINE]:

    Peter on March 16th, 2009 10:16 pm

    The City of Mississauga considering closing the Sheridan Branch Library.

    There will be a public meeting held on April 6th from 7 to 9 pm at the Sheridan Branch.

  4. Ernst Blofeld on March 17th, 2009 9:03 am

    Great post. Like you, I agree that there are turds in every group. You can be sure that the individual(s) responsible for complaining about the “tax dollars” were likely those against the current Canadian activities in Afghanistan.

    This should probably be left on the editorial page at The News, but, I’ll share it here first… (Sorry Muse)

    Whether or not one supports Canada’s involvement, you should at least support the men and women who were paid to leave their families behind to fight for the freedom of another country. These people chose not to sit behind desks in glass towers pushing paper, complaining about tax dollars. They saw a problem, and decided to be a part of the solution.

    You don’t have to support the mission, but you should support the men and women who are out there dying in the desert to restore peace to an area where the only thing they know how to do is blow each other to hell.

    If you can’t stand behind our troops, stand in front of them.

    On another note… Evey employee in Canada is entitled to two 15 minute breaks, and an hour (or half hour) lunch. Even city employees. A lot of times, you take your break whenever you think you can get it. If you are on your way back from a call, and you think you might have time for a coffee – you better stop and get it, because you never know how long it’s going to be until the next one.

    You think these guys were standing there while the whole city was left without the protection of firefighters, EMS and police? Think again. And while you are thinking, think about this – as they stood there paying their respects – they were ready and waiting to be called away to pull your whining ass from a fire, or investigate the theft of your garden gnome, or show up at your house to put a band-aid on the finger you cut. (I say that, because our Emergency Services are sometimes call out for the most ridiculous things. Apparently though, standing and saying goodbye to a fallen soldier is more of a waste of tax dollars than calling them for a scraped knee or stolen gnome.)

    Instead of bitching about what you see them “not doing”, buy one of them a coffee, and thank them for caring enough about this city to risk their lives.

    I wonder if any of these complainers have ever had to strap on a bullet-proof vest before bending down to kiss their kids and heading off to work.

  5. The Mississauga Muse on March 17th, 2009 9:58 am

    Hey there Ernst and WOW!-thanks for your comments! Now I won’t have to! And please don’t say “Sorry Muse” —you helped me out here.

    There’s only one comment you didn’t address in “Firefighters salute a fallen hero” . Let me cut-and-paste.

    Only firefighters worth the ink
    First of all and foremost, a deep thank you FD for participating in the repatriation of our esteemed comrade who paid the ultimate price for freedom. But to the writer and editor, a thank you must go out to you for mentioning all the other Emergency Services that took the time from thier actual busy calls to pay tribute. I guess Ambulance Services and Police aren’t worth the ink. Since 9/11 firefighters have been poster people for ‘heroism’. Out of all the emergency services, they do the least work for the most pay. Argue if you like, but I dare you honestly research. So I say thank you to all the Peel Paramedics, and ACP’s that took the time, as well as all the peel police officers too.Posted By: armymedic71

    armymedic71’s comment about firefighters, “Out of all the emergency services, they do the least work for the most pay. Argue if you like, but I dare you honestly research.”

    Now I got other priorities in research but, because I have been in Hawaii for so long, I (think I can) compare firefighters to Hawaii’s lifeguards. Let’s take the Maui ones. Both the Maui Fire Department and Maui Parks and Recreation Lifeguards would be municipal employees (County of Maui).

    Anyone watching Maui’s lifeguards would think they have a true dream job. Sit there in a lifeguard tower. Sit there some more. Check the ocean with binoculars and sit there some more. But when they’re needed they crash into action. And most times they’ll tell you it isn’t much.

    But then come the winter waves. These jaw-dropping walls of water. And they get surfers who just shouldn’t be other there surfing The Giants with the locals. They get in trouble and those lifeguards DO put their lives on the line to rescue them. Water. Fire. Same.

    There’s a wonderful book about an Oahu-based lifeguard called “Eddie Would Go”. He was a hero even to other lifeguards. When the waves were so big that even the hardiest lifeguards figured a save was impossible… (you guessed it) Eddie Would Go.

    Fact is, most days, people would’ve walked by Eddie and said the same thing about him that  armymedic71 made about our Missy firefighters.

    I stand by what I said when people crab about our Emergency Services being on that bridge —that it’s a failure of the imagination.

    You essentially said the same thing when you wrote:

    “If you can’t stand behind our troops, stand in front of them.”

    An aside. You wrote:

    “You think these guys were standing there while the whole city was left without the protection of firefighters, EMS and police? Think again. And while you are thinking, think about this – as they stood there paying their respects – they were ready and waiting to be called away to pull your whining ass from a fire…”

    By far, the most remarkable thing I ever witnessed firefighter-wise was the tribute our Missy Finestkind gave their Fire Chief Garry W. Morden.  Mississauga Council was PACKED. From former firefighters to baby-recruits. PACKED!

    And just briefly I wondered what would happen if some major fire happened.  (Ernst, it was the briefest brief you could imagine).

    I knew our Missy Emergency Services (Chief Metcalf and other police were there ..) could clear that evil empire chamber and the evil empire’s Big Yellow in less than two minutes. (and some would get to wherever even faster because the evil empire’s Big Yellow is closer to centre).

    GREAT NOISES, Ernst! I suggest you go over to “Firefighters salute a fallen hero” and tap dance on a few heads there too.  See you there.

  6. Ernst Blofeld on March 17th, 2009 6:00 pm

    Gah! It just won’t post anything I type. (I’m going to stop making attempts – in the event I’m beginning to look technologically challenged.)

    I missed the comment from armymedic71.

    He raises some interesting points – and is quite correct in that none of the other Emergency Services were mentioned. I think it is likely due to the fact that, since 9/11 Firefighters have gained “rockstar” status. The other services are just – boring. Maybe some people are jealous of that attention.

    Here is something else… You see all those young hot firefighters on calendars. All the girlies drool and purr. But, a 200 pound pot-bellied, hairy-eared bald guy shows up to get a kitten from a tree – and they still purr and drool.

    Can someone of the feminine persuasion explain this to me, please?

  7. The Mississauga Muse on March 17th, 2009 9:58 pm

    Hey again, Ernst.

    You wrote:

    Gah! It just won’t post anything I type. (I’m going to stop making attempts – in the event I’m beginning to look technologically challenged.)

    WOW! You’re right! Did you ever mess that up!  How’d you even manage to do that? (I thought I was bad). OK, here’s how I do readers  comments for the MissyNews and  Toronto Star (works in both places).

    Don’t type directly into the online “paper”. Use Microsoft Word or whatever other word processing programme you use for a rough copy first. Meaning write your comment OFFLINE.  Then cut-and-paste into the comment section afterwards. But before you paste to the newspaper, do a word count (very important). Max is 150 words allowed at MissyNews.

    Torstar is more forgiving.  If you go over, Torstar will tell you how many characters you need to cut back on.

    MissyNews will just cut your sentence off at the knees and leave your butt flapping in the cool breezes.

    Oh! And in the case of MissyNews do not use a question mark! Using a “?” is lethal.  Anything typed after a “?” gets deleted. (MissyNews won’t let you use a question mark to prevent commenters from posting the URL’s of YouTube/Google videos. Both contain a “?” in their URL’s.

    Onto your actual comments, you wrote:

    I missed the comment from armymedic71.He raises some interesting points – and is quite correct in that none of the other Emergency Services were mentioned. I think it is likely due to the fact that, since 9/11 Firefighters have gained “rockstar” status. The other services are just – boring. Maybe some people are jealous of that attention.

    Maybe. But I figure the two high profile Emergency Services are police and firefighters. Even back in the 50’s when I was a kid, those were the two big ones. I agree with you that firefighters are more popular with the public than police no matter how hard our Peelers try.

    Police give tickets. They carry guns.

    Also never forget. When a cat’s up a tree who you gonna call? End of story.

    You wrote:

    Here is something else… You see all those young hot firefighters on calendars. All the girlies drool and purr. But, a 200 pound pot-bellied, hairy-eared bald guy shows up to get a kitten from a tree – and they still purr and drool.Can someone of the feminine persuasion explain this to me, please?

    I’m of the feminine persuasion and I think I answered that question.  Girlies like cats!

    And there’s nothing sexier than a male who’ll climb a ladder to rescue a kitten.  A male prepared to risk life and limb for a kitten demonstates a mothering instinct.  That gives him full range (masculine-side jumping onto a fire truck and his feminine-nurturing-side rescuing a kitten that dcesn’t want to be rescued) That “range” makes him  primo father material.

    I don’t see what’s not to get.

    And Ernst, I just drove around all day in a white Dodge Charger and spoke to/met up with (she counts…)  four Peelers. Trust me. Not all studmuffins are firefighters…

  8. Ernst Blofeld on March 18th, 2009 8:37 am

    I needed that chuckle this morning!

  9. The Mississauga Muse on March 21st, 2009 12:40 pm

    Hi again, Ernst Blofeld

    So happy to provide a morning chuckle!

    Thought I’d do one better though, because I’ve been thinking about what you’d written. About sacrifice and courage and stuff. So here’s video of what I believe to be a song that projects how I feel about war and soldiers. It’s by Dire Straits called “Brothers in Arms”.

    And let’s dedicate it to every Canadian soldier ever.

    Brothers in Arms – Dire Straits

    (Click here to go directly to the clip on YouTube)

    Peace, bro.


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