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Mississauga Graffiti High Definition video-report: “The (‘eye-popping’) Cathedral”

August 21st, 2010  

As already reported, I’ve been researching Brampton/Mississauga graffiti since April 19, 2009. Why? Please see our May 13th, 2010 blog, GRAFFITI AND TAGGING IN MISSISSAUGA: INTRODUCING “HACR” (RESTRICTED CONTENT) for a full explanation.

Just over a week ago, a YouTuber tipped me off to the most remarkable graffiti site I’ve ever seen. He told me to prepare for some “eye-popping” graffiti and even that descriptor didn’t prepare me for the —WOW!

I made my first visit on August 12, 2010 and it took all of five minutes experiencing the Feel and I named the place, The Cathedral. This “Cathedral” is so big, its graffiti so extensive, that I couldn’t document everything in just one trip. I returned the next day.

A week passed and then yesterday, I returned with a High Definition camera.

Believe it or not, there were some rather dramatic changes between August 13th and yesterday. I guess with the weekend in between, da graffers had been back at it… Quite the surprise!

That’s enough of an intro. Time to let the videos do the talking. As always, the videos and then the transcripts. And warning, some will find images documented to be offensive.

Video: MISSISSAUGA GRAFFITI-CATHEDRAL Part 1: The Privilege of Discovery (3:46 min)

(Click here to go directly to the clip on YouTube)

[TRANSCRIPT BEGINS]

MISSISSAUGAWATCH (first trip to “The Cathedral”, August 12, 2010):

It is Thursday, August the 12th, 2010 and I’m here following up on a tip. About some really amazing graffiti. And oh my god, it’s all over! It’s all over the place.

And I got the tip through YouTube —there’s somebody coming with their dog so I have to give them privacy. And I was told that I’d have to promise not to harm anything.

Guy with dog (“The Cathedral”, August 12, 2010):

How you doin’?

MISSISSAUGAWATCH (first trip to “The Cathedral”, August 12, 2010):

Hi.

And, it’s a privilege seeing this. And I also know just looking at the richness —I mean, I can’t explain it. It’s, it’s incredible!

[DIP TO WHITE]

And the thing is, how do you even go and document something that extends from here, all the way along —to there. And looks like there’s something else over there as well.

(sighs)

Well it’s very clear that I have to be here, come again, and make a day of this.

Look at this, isn’t that a beautiful little C. raptor or something.

“Eye-popping graffiti”, that’s what I was told would be here.

[DIP TO WHITE]

Look at this. I mean… I feel like it’s discovering a cave with artists like—

And that’s what this is to me, it’s Art, it’s -it’s Voices, it’s —look at this.

Ya. There’s “The Doors”. And somebody who looks like they’ve been listening to The Doors all right.

If you see me shooting down it’s to try to protect the location.

[DIP TO WHITE]

See this? Isn’t this amazing, look at this, watch. You go like this, you go all the way this way, look at this! And you know, in here? Then it’s three-deep. It’s over there.

All of this I get to document. And to document it because you never know when authorities will come and delete all this. Because there is evidence here —I’m assuming that the white patching is done by authorities and not by graffiti artists who want a new canvas, I’m not sure.

[DIP TO WHITE]

Look at this.

Like imagine how much more interesting this is than a sterile bridge.

[DIP TO WHITE]

And the question is this, what’s behind those columns on this side? Beautiful.

Turning camera off.

[CROSS ZOOM]

MISSISSAUGAWATCH (second trip to “The Cathedral”, August 13, 2010 teaser):

Well I made through the other side as my pants reveal and this is what the other side looks like. It’s amazing.

[TRANSCRIPT ENDS. SEE PART 2]

Video: MISSISSAUGA GRAFFITI-CATHEDRAL Part 2: DON’T TELL ME THAT GRAFFITI ISN’T ART! (3:44 min)

(Click here to go directly to the clip on YouTube)

[TRANSCRIPT BEGINS]

MISSISSAUGAWATCH (second trip to “The Cathedral”, August 13, 2010):

It is Friday, August the 13th, 2010 and I’ve once again returned to the site that I was tipped off to yesterday, graffiti site here.

[DIP TO WHITE]

What I want to do today is see what’s across —over there. So the first thing I’ve got to do is figure out the logistics. So I’m going to do a little bit of exploring but that area, I want to see what’s over there.

Turning camera off.

Well I made through the other side as my pants reveal and this is what the other side looks like. It’s amazing. And now I get to see what the other side that I never got to see —is over here. And it’s remarkable, gonna take me a long time to document.

[DIP TO WHITE]

Just for orientation, before, I was on the opposite side of that wall and I came through this way.

So it was a delight to see “MYOH” also on this side. That’s one of his more elaborate pieces of work. And what’s really interesting is over here, I wonder if I can make this out here. You get the name “MYOH”, “QUEZ” —there’s “HACR”. Likely the OGC graffiti crew. There it is.

And I just want to also point out some things here and along this wall. And just to document further, along here, here —and it starts going into darker recesses.

I mean it’s extensive, huh.

I wonder what it’s like at night. Say with a full moon. I know when you talk to Maui surfers, their favourite time for surfing is, believe it or not, at night, under a full moon. And I wonder what this place must look like at night.

It’s almost cathedral-like. Look at it. And it’s definitely, a night place.

[DIP TO BLACK]

Look what I just found. “MYOH”. And a reminder that he’s got one, a way over on that side —here. He’s got another one right there and one on this opposite wall. So he’s really prominent here. That’s beautiful.

[DIP TO WHITE]

I have to say it’s worth coming and looking at every part of this, every square inch. Look what I found. Skeletal fish. But also this. A spray can in their brand of choice. Right there. I’m not going to move it either. I promised that I wasn’t going to touch anything.

[DIP TO WHITE]

I don’t expect this to come out, but take a look at that. Painting of an eye. And then it kind of goes quite nicely into this.

Don’t anybody say that graffiti isn’t Art.

Turning camera off.

STILL PHOTOS
[TRANSCRIPT ENDS]

And then we get to Trip Three. HIGH DEFINITION.

Video: Mississauga Graffiti HIGH DEFINITION “The Cathedral” Report (9:11 min)

(Click here to go directly to the clip on YouTube)

[TRANSCRIPT BEGINS]

MISSISSAUGAWATCH (third trip to “The Cathedral”, August 20, 2010)

It is Friday, August the 20th, 2010. We’re back at the Cathedrals —with one difference and that is that this time I have a High Definition camera.

[DIP TO WHITE]

I just want to make sure that I’m documenting every thing I did the other day, but this time in High Definition. And again, it’s just to do this stuff justice. ‘Cuz you never know when the authorities are going to come and erase this.

Just to give you an idea about this, again it goes all the way down here. Along—fortunately this, look at that. I mean, that’s “MYOH” and look what it looks like. It’s almost like —that’s why I said this is such a remarkable place to be, probably at night. And the “MYOH” because it’s in silver, right here looks like it’s sort of shining.

[DIP TO WHITE]

I have a friend who’s also interested in graffiti and documenting it, documenting the material over here.

And I’m so glad now that I’ve got the High Definition camera just to show you this. And that must be really something to see if you come here at night. Specially on a full moon. And I’d also mentioned there’s the “MYOH” here. Just shining in the darkness.

And there’s the reason why I call this “The Cathedral”. Take a look. Isn’t this something?

And, I’ll tell you something else that’s different since the last time I was here. That. Right there. It used to just say, “IT’S TIME”. And someone added “TO GET LAID” and added a kind of smiley face there —an emoticon.

Again, the effect of sunlight. Like that. And here’s what the “MYOH” looks like when sunlight is on it. So you can get this kind of effect here. And clearly there’s going to be a photograph taken of the “MYOH”. It’s difficult sometimes getting these things in.

[DIP TO WHITE]

Funny, he had the same reaction that I did. Which is, you first are against graffiti and then once you really start documenting it, then you realize that there’s some remarkable artists. And even if there isn’t just art, maybe if it’s just tagging and stuff like that [“FAG”]  —that’s important to document too.

That and where’s the swastika I found here? Where is it? Oh yeah. Right there. And right there. Because you want to document the occurrences.

Look at this. Look what’s just in the water.

[CROSS ZOOM]

Let’s see if I can make this shot. The Cathedrals. I’m calling this the West Side. “MYOH”.

[DIP TO WHITE]

Look what I found. A very very old can. Rusted. And I’m just wondering whether that wasn’t the can used to paint that “KTC” ‘cuz there’s no way that was sprayed. Huh.

[DIP TO WHITE]

It is Friday, August the 20th, 2010 and we’re now on the other side which I call the East Side of the Cathedral. And what I’m doing is going to be documenting this —look at the size of that— with a High Definition camera. And also document any changes since the last time I was here. Which was just three of four days ago [sic. actually it was seven/eight days ago.]

And that’s been confirmed, as has, I’m now going to call this the fourth swastika. Remember how I said that swastikas are of interest to me? So, that makes four. And gosh, it would be awful if I didn’t notice that just a few days ago.

[CLOCK WIPE REVERSE]

MISSISSAUGAWATCH (re-view of first trip to “The Cathedral”, August 12, 2010 confirms I didn’t notice the prominent swastika the first time!)

It is Thursday, August the 12th, 2010 and I’m here following up on a tip. About some really amazing graffiti. And oh my god, it’s all over!

[CLOCK WIPE]

MISSISSAUGAWATCH (third trip to “The Cathedral”, August 20, 2010)

And just documenting. There’s the “OGC” group mentioned the other day. This looks like it might have been painted over. Not sure. We know at least from this thing up here, at least some thing has been surviving since 2008.

[DIP TO WHITE]

So much for my hope to be, for a photograph of me standing besides, “IT’S TIME”. I certainly can’t stand beside that now. But that’s okay. That’s the nature of graffiti. It changes. Boy does it change.

He’s still doing that.

This is a more extensive —site, graffiti site —the largest one that I had documented previous to this was on the Island of Maui, in Kahalui-side. But this —when I asked my friend the first time he saw it, I let him come in here first. I said, what do you think?

And his reaction was, “It’s a good start…”

[DIP TO WHITE]

This for orientation. Here’s where we are. And to point out, I pointed that out last time and I certainly remember “NIRVANA” over here. But this, behind it, I think is new. And it’s quite typical, I think of the way a lot of graffiti artists feel. And that is, it says, “I will never stop. The edge is near.”

But look. Look how far up that guy had to be. Had to maneuver around that one to go there.

That’s one of the things that I say about the graffiti artists that —how, the kind of risk-takers that they are. I mean think about it, look. There it is. And look at what would happen if you miss-stepped. Those are unforgiving rocks.

And yet someone’s been compelled to go that far to say, here’s my message, look how far up I can write it.

INVITED FRIEND/DOCUMENTER ( “The Cathedral”, August 20, 2010):

First of all remember, you can take a half-decent photograph with that camera.

MISSISSAUGAWATCH (third trip to “The Cathedral”, August 20, 2010)

Oh, I know I’ve already done it.  Like I did a photograph of that—

INVITED FRIEND/DOCUMENTER ( “The Cathedral”, August 20, 2010):

Yeah.

MISSISSAUGAWATCH (third trip to “The Cathedral”, August 20, 2010)

“I will never stop. I edge is near.” But what’s interesting is, just imagine what risk-taking it takes and I don’t remember that—

INVITED FRIEND/DOCUMENTER ( “The Cathedral”, August 20, 2010):

Yeah. I was thinking about that. How the hell, you know, like—

MISSISSAUGAWATCH (third trip to “The Cathedral”, August 20, 2010)

He’d have to negoti—

INVITED FRIEND/DOCUMENTER ( “The Cathedral”, August 20, 2010):

I can see how he can get onto these without too much trouble.

MISSISSAUGAWATCH (third trip to “The Cathedral”, August 20, 2010)

Yeah.

INVITED FRIEND/DOCUMENTER ( “The Cathedral”, August 20, 2010):

Getting around that pillar to get up there? That’s taking a —I can see how you do it. I wouldn’t do it.

MISSISSAUGAWATCH (third trip to “The Cathedral”, August 20, 2010)

No, and just look, I mean it’s unforgiving. Look at —it’s not like, you know, you’re falling into ten feet of water. That’s rocks and—

INVITED FRIEND/DOCUMENTER ( “The Cathedral”, August 20, 2010):

Oh, you fall down there and if you’re not dead, you’re gonna be very badly hurt.

MISSISSAUGAWATCH (third trip to “The Cathedral”, August 20, 2010)

Oh yeah. And yet they do that! And you know what that is? It’s just sayin’, look what I can do.

INVITED FRIEND/DOCUMENTER ( “The Cathedral”, August 20, 2010):

Yeah, oh yeah.

MISSISSAUGAWATCH (third trip to “The Cathedral”, August 20, 2010)

And not only look what I can do, I know, the edge is near. But I’m going to do it anyway! It’s just fascinating.

Are you sure you’ve documented everything?

INVITED FRIEND/DOCUMENTER ( “The Cathedral”, August 20, 2010):

I don’t know, no, definitely not.

MISSISSAUGAWATCH (third trip to “The Cathedral”, August 20, 2010)

Definitely not, yeah, I know.

INVITED FRIEND/DOCUMENTER ( “The Cathedral”, August 20, 2010):

I’m sure I haven’t documented everything. Absolutely not a chance.

MISSISSAUGAWATCH (third trip to “The Cathedral”, August 20, 2010)

Yeah. Well, you know, always come back.

[TRANSCRIPT ENDS]

MISSISSAUGAWATCH has been studying/documenting graffiti since April 19, 2009 as part of our research into the Roots of Youth Violence.

MISSISSAUGA GRAFFITI, "IT'S TIME TO GET LAID". LOCATION: THE CATHEDRAL" COMPARATIVE (AUGUST 13, 2010 and AUGUST 20, 2010)

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